Some corrections to statements made regarding Dr Shelton in Stuff’s article
For the Stuff article GO HERE
17 July, 2021
A group of courageous doctors have joined the ranks of those seeking to provide some balance to New Zealand’s vaccine campaign by spreading new information. What are they saying and do they pose a real threat to our accepted response? CATE BROUGHTON reports.
A letter was sent from the Medical Council of NZ and the Dental Council to all practitioners advising them that there is no place for any messages that are not supportive of vaccination (“anti-vaccination”).
Whilst referring to the overseas scientists he was quoting, Dr Shelton referenced their recognition of Covid being an influenza-level illness, in terms of death rates and who’s hit hardest.
Dr Shelton spoke about some of the limitations of quantifying vaccine efficacy from existing data. That included raising others’ questions about inferring absolute infection numbers from variations in the PCR amplification cycle times between countries and within countries. Dr Shelton also commented on the reliability of the infection fatality rate “with” Covid compared to “from” Covid within the international scientific community and commented that there was some lack of confidence in the numbers.
Information on the official government position were scattered throughout the article:
Dr Shelton says to put your name to a document that you know is going to put you in opposition to the state requires pretty strong conviction and courage but that there was plenty of people helping, including non-medical scientists and that the group was growing (also see *2)
Dr Shelton went on to cite that the most spectacular successes of non-vaccine treatment were in India, using Ivermectin. The high-level evidence is being ignored he says., adding to the pressure on doctors to self-censor and not say anything negative about the vaccination (see note *2)
The remainder of the article can be read HERE and discusses public attitudes, targets and reactions.
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As a comment to seemorerocks’s “SOME CORRECTIONS TO STATEMENTS MADE REGARDING DR SHELTON …etc,” after checking out the linked ‘STUFF’ article, couldn’t help but see there seems to be an effort to stretch the statistics to give the illusion of fewer vaccine-supportive ‘doctors’ per the full complement of their profession in New Zealand — the final number given being only “7 out of 26,000 nationwide.” Problem here is lack of clarity of the figures cited, and also whether both the ‘Medical Council’ and the ‘Dental Council’ are involved. Also, that the first stats provided for the non-supportive are “32 doctors, 100 nurses, and 187 allied health professionals” as doubters of the ‘vaccine,’ while the NZ Medical Council is investigating just 7 (perhaps, the ones about whom complaints were made). 26,000 ‘doctors’ (a figure I’ve not been able to corroborate) among a NZ population of a little under 5.2 million means about 1 doctor for every 200; Canada by comparison (in 2019) has 91,375 physicians for its 37.41 million, or a little over 1 for every 400. In other words, the impression for me is that in New Zealand, comparatively, there are many doctors, and very few are anti-vaccine.
Robin—could you please remove the ‘c’ in my name to read WesKoastKanuk—-thank you, with blessings !
Of course! Sorry.
(Robin—-what follows is a re-submission, and taking the opportunity to improve a little the longish original, which seems to have disappeared, the reason for which might have been the misspell of my name, while the 2-liner above got fairly promptly posted) ——- As a comment to seemorerocks’s “SOME CORRECTIONS TO STATEMENTS MADE REGARDING DR SHELTON …etc,” after checking out the linked ‘STUFF’ article, couldn’t help but notice there seems to have been an effort to give the illusion of fewer vaccine-unsupportive ‘doctors’ per the full complement of their profession — the final number given being only “7 out of 26,000 nationwide.” Problem here is clarity surrounding the figures cited, and also whether both the Medical Council and the Dental Council are involved. Further, that the first stats provided for the unsupportive are “32 doctors, 100 nurses and 187 allied health professionals” as doubters of the ‘vaccine,’ while the New Zealand Medical Council is investigating just 7 (perhaps the ones about whom complaints were made). 26,000 ‘doctors’ (a number I’ve not been able to corroborate) among a NZ population of a little under 5.2 million means about 1 doctor for every 200. Canada by comparison (in 2019) has 91,375 physicians for its 37.41 million, or, 1 for a little over every 400. In other words, the impression for me is that in New Zealand, comparatively, there are many doctors, and very few of them are anti-vaccine.
(Robin —- what follows is a re-submission, with a slight improvement to the original, which original seems to have disappeared, perhaps due to a misspell in my name, as mentioned in my above comment … in fact, this is the 2nd re-submission, as the first failed to upload, the webpage with .php extension not reloading) ——- As a comment to seemorerocks’s “SOME CORRECTIONS TO STATEMENTS MADE REGARDING DR SHELTON …etc,” after checking out the linked ‘STUFF’ article, couldn’t help but notice there seemed to be an effort to work the statistics to give the illusion of fewer vaccine-unsupportive ‘doctors’ per the full complement of their profession — the final number given being only “7 out of 26,000 nationwide.” Problem here is lack of clarity surrounding the figures cited, and also whether both the Medical Council and the Dental Council are included. Further, that the stats provided for the unsupportive are “32 doctors, 100 nurses and 187 allied health professionals” as doubters of the ‘vaccine,’ while the New Zealand Medical Council is investigating just 7 (perhaps the ones against whom complaints were made). 26,000 ‘doctors’ (a number I’ve not been able to corroborate) among a NZ population of a little under 5.2 million means 1 doctor for about every 200. Canada (in 2019), by comparison has 91,375 physicians for its 37.41 million, or 1 for a little over every 400. In other words, the impression for me is that in New Zealand, comparatively, there are many doctors, and very few are anti-vaccine.
Not sure how so many copies of my submission got posted. The one timed 7:56 PM was supposed to be the final corrected version. Maybe some points needed repeating?!